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Expect the Unexpected with Felix Salmon of Axios

Felix Salmon is the chief financial correspondent at Axios and the author of the new book, The Phoenix Economy: Work, Life, and Money in the New Not Normal. Circle Co-Founder, CEO, and Chairman Jeremy Allaire caught up with Felix recently to review his book’s tour of the ways the pandemic has structurally altered our lives – and our financial architecture. “We are now, I think, moving into a much more volatile world and much more unpredictable world,” Salmon notes.

Their conversation touched on:


  • [3:22] – A more volatile world
  • [7:49] – Profound changes
  • [16:55] – The power of fiat currency
  • [24:40] – Payment system innovation
  • [26:26] – Russia and SWIFT
  • [47:15] – Is AI just a party trick?


If you’re interested in learning more about fiscal policy, financial architecture, and navigating volatility, tune in to this episode of The Money Movement. 

Jeremy Allaire
Co-Founder, CEO & Chairman at Circle
Felix Salmon
Chief Financial Correspondent, Axios

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